Monday, February 4, 2008

Inverted commas

Twenty years ago, PC word processors struggled with apostrophes and quotation marks. Back then, I was forgiving, but the problem is still ubiquitous. Why? I spent the morning reviewing graduate school applications in which every apostrophe was converted to a question mark. And look at the atrocious quotation marks offered in the otherwise reasonable font selections from blogger.com:

"Verdana"
"Georgia"
"Arial"
"Lucide Grande"

One could infer that the proper rendering of quotation marks is a more difficult problem than, say, the creation of the entire world wide web from scratch.

On a wholly unrelated note, would anyone care to comment on this story?

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11 Comments:

Blogger Bernie said...

Frank, the question mark thing is a total pc to mac (vice versa?) fiasco. It's nothing else. Chalk it up to the machine code. Macs and PCs are fundamentally different.

February 4, 2008 9:06 PM  
Blogger John Levenstein said...

where does the show go now that it's gotten as self referential as possible? and why's everyone worried about whether mitch makes enough money? he's fine.

February 4, 2008 9:13 PM  
Blogger Jack Silbert said...

I am ready for some big-screen Tambor!

February 4, 2008 9:50 PM  
Blogger Bernie said...

Season 1 was great Two was so so . three was awful. So... if a movie were made and Mitch Hurwitz wrote it and if it were like season three it would be horrible. Logic stands, right?

February 4, 2008 11:27 PM  
Blogger frank b. said...

Back to punctuation: this was at work, so no Macs were involved.

February 5, 2008 6:42 AM  
Blogger Paul C. said...

This wikipedia entry has some background: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark_glyphs

Under the quotation marks in English section it goes into the gory details.

It does look like, by using the html codes in that chart, one can use curved quotes. It would just be a lot of work.

“Interesting?”
‘No?’

BTW Frank...it was fun recording last night.

February 5, 2008 7:40 AM  
Blogger Paul C. said...

OK...one more link:
http://1000timesno.net/?p=261

The author posts the Mac keystrokes necessary for the curved quotes.

True right quotation mark ( ” ): Shift + Option + [
True left quotation mark ( “ ): Option + [
True apostrophe ( ’ ): Shift + Option + ]
True reverse apostrophe ( ‘ ): Option + ]

February 5, 2008 7:47 AM  
Blogger Bernie said...

Do you know why it's happening?

February 5, 2008 8:23 AM  
Blogger Jack Silbert said...

I enjoyed Arrested through its entire run--and though there were weak patches, the Hurwitz-penned episodes were usually pretty strong. And we'd probably get Henry Winkler back on the big screen! And Liza! And Michael Cera's Q rating is through the roof. I'm green-lighting this puppy!

February 5, 2008 9:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Hurwitz-penned episodes" is an oxymoron... signed,

The Insider

February 5, 2008 10:41 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

John, I am not interested in an Arrested Development movie either.

I also think Jason Bateman and Michael Cera have both carved out very nice movie careers since the show ended, so I'm not sure how much of a forward step revisiting their old roles would be.

February 6, 2008 9:53 PM  

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